On Jul 17, 2019, at 09:43, Nick Hilliard <nick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I know of many people in the operational community who either don't contribute or who no longer contribute to IETF discussions because of perceived hostility. Is that because of perceived hostility in tone or maybe because of perceived hostility towards their ideas (i.e., IETF is going to ignore their points anyway)? Grüße, Carsten