FWIW, the thing that makes it hardest to participate in the IETF are the long threads that never go anywhere. They serve as a DoS attack on the entire IETF. I realize hit may sound hypocritical for me to say this, since i offend in this way from time to time. Hostility is a huge problem and I don’t mean to minimize it, but I think this is arguably worse. Please think of your audience. If you are adding to the conversation, great.. If you are just communicating because you feel unsatisfied but have nothing really new to add, there is almost certainly some better (less expensive) way to satisfy that need. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 17, 2019, at 5:55 AM, Carsten Bormann <cabo@xxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On Jul 17, 2019, at 09:43, Nick Hilliard <nick@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I know of many people in the operational community who either don't contribute or who no longer contribute to IETF discussions because of perceived hostility. > > Is that because of perceived hostility in tone or maybe because of perceived hostility towards their ideas (i.e., IETF is going to ignore their points anyway)? > > Grüße, Carsten >
