Re: Advertising WG adoption and WG LCs requests [was RE: Interim (and other) meeting guidelines versus openness, transparency, inclusion, and outreach]

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On 18. Jul 2023, at 23:32, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> On 18-Jul-23 21:17, Rob Wilton (rwilton) wrote:
>> I want to pick up on suggestions by Christian and Keith, because I think that they are both potentially good ideas, and perhaps we should raise an issue in the Datatracker to consider whether implementing these might be feasible (if there is wider interest).
>> (1) I think that it would be helpful to have a mailing list where notification of *all* WG adoption calls are made.
> 
> The IETF has showed no interest in formalising the procedures for WG adoption [1], so we don't have any kind of uniform practice here.

I think that it is good to allow some variety in these procedures.
But there is a clearly defined barrier between individual and WG document, so it should not be hard to ask that this notification happens (and datatracker could easily enforce it).

>> (2) I think that it would be helpful to have a separate mailing list where notification of *all* WG last calls are made.
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> As a reference point, today there are 1241 subscriptions to last-call@xxxxxxxx. We can only guess how many people would subscribe to all WG adoption calls and all WG last calls, but I imagine it would be much less.

Last-call is a very different list, as it carries discussions, not just notifications.

>> (3) The Datatracker already allows participants to track individual drafts but allowing participants to also track when specific WG adoption/last-call's also happen, without necessarily having to follow all of the WG email, may also be interesting and useful functionality.  Even if it just acts a reminder to go any catchup on some WG email threads.
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> I agree. A feature whereby one could be notified of significant events in a WG without having to filter its entire email traffic would be very useful.

Sounds useful, too!
(I have a few groups on full state update notifications, and I couldn’t do that for that many more.)

Grüße, Carsten





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