Ted, Your attempt at trying to characterize problematic words with "hurtfull" is useful. Asking for the discussion to be limited to people personally affected is not so useful. And trust me, its not fun to question the effectiveness and efficiency of well meaning initiatives. I brought up "fat" as a well known example of abuse in hostile work environments that i assume most on this thread could easier relate to than slavery (fat shaming). Makes it IMHO easier to imagine how language management can not really help directly with hostile work environments. I really don't think that pythons change can help with any hostile work environments either. The best benefit i can think of is relief for the poor teacher in school/college of an affected country who really does not need a discussion about slavery when teaching a 101 computer course in python. Nor the support for playfull passive-aggressive behavior when students start programming with a a derogatory-rich vocabulary. Cheers Toerless On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 05:39:58PM -0400, Ted Lemon wrote: > On Sep 20, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Do i qualify to demand a rename of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tree <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fat_tree> > > if i have an appropriate BMI and feel offended or do i have to work in > > a Data Center ? > > Toerless, let me put it to you this way: are you having a problem at work that is sufficient that you feel that you would like to report it to your human resources/personnel department as harassment, but you don't feel safe in doing so? If so, and if what you are experiencing is being enabled by some terminology used in the IETF, then what you are saying would apply. Otherwise you are just wasting our time asking this question. This is not a Kaffee Klatsch, and we are not talking about this for fun. > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_work_environment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hostile_work_environment> > -- --- tte@xxxxxxxxx