I also find the stereotyping of names in signalling terminology highly offensive and non-inclusive: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_and_Bob Why are only Alice and Bob so chatty to always have the most conversations ? Won't Carol get depressions from always being a third rail ? Will your kids ever get jobs if you name them Craig, Mallory, Eve or Heidi ? And so on. These SIP heads are ruining the life of our kids! *sigh* Keep your virtue signalling out of my language! -- Toerless On Thu, Sep 20, 2018 at 11:25:58AM +0200, Niels ten Oever wrote: > Hi all, > > On the hrpc-list [0] there has been an intense conversation which was > spurred by the news that the Python community removed Master/Slave > terminology from its programming language [1]. > > In the discussion that followed it was remarked that in RFCs terms like > Master/Slave, blacklist/whitelist, man-in-middle, and other terminology > that is offensive to some people and groups is quite common. > > This is not a discussion that can be resolved in hrpc, but rather should > be dealt with in the IETF community (because hrpc doesn't make policy > for terminology in the IETF), which is why I am posting this here. > > If people find the discussion worthwhile, we might also be just in time > to request a BoF on this topic. > > Looking forward to discuss. > > Best, > > Niels > > > [0] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/hrpc/ > [1] > https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/8x7akv/masterslave-terminology-was-removed-from-python-programming-language > > > -- > Niels ten Oever > Researcher and PhD Candidate > Datactive Research Group > University of Amsterdam > > PGP fingerprint 2458 0B70 5C4A FD8A 9488 > 643A 0ED8 3F3A 468A C8B3
