John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Moreover, unless something has changed that you or Jay know > about but I don't, prior experience with Meetecho strongly > suggests that, if we discover deficiencies that we would like to > have corrected before IETF 108 and give them reasonable notice, > the chances of getting those changes made are quite good. > Having tried, in non-IETF contexts, to work with the providers > of three or four of the systems Diplo lists to get bugs or > unfortunate features fixed, a year or two might be plausible, > but not six weeks... unless , of course, one is a government > making demands and/or threats. And, I think that I need to repeat that I was unable to file a real bug report when webex stopped working for desktops with public IPv4. I got no acknowlegement of my bug, and I have no idea what the problem is. It's been like 6 weeks now. And it's not like we don't know people who know the webex people. I'm hardly surprised that zoom ate their lunch. I am observing many paying customer abandonning gotomeeting; I'm not sure why exactly, as it had a lot of advantages. Allusions were made that it's my browsers' fault, but I note that all the other webrtc based services continue to function fine. Some even prefer IPv6. I guess I can try removing my mitigation during the next call I'm involved in, and see. -- Michael Richardson <mcr+IETF@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, Sandelman Software Works -= IPv6 IoT consulting =-
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