> On 11 Jun 2020, at 13:01, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: >>> let me see if i can push you just a little bit out of the box. a >>> small step. >>> >>> there are two time slots in the day which work for what i call three >>> continent calls, apac, emea/africa, noam/alyc. each day a different >>> wg meets in one of those two slots of *their* choice. thus the ietf >>> 'meeting' is smeared over three months. >> >> Keep pushing. >> >> And this would win us a schedule free of WG meeting clashes, and >> avoidance of several hundred drafts being published in 24 hours with >> very little hope of reading the ones that interest you before the WG >> meeting. >> >> Many WGs are already embracing more frequent online interims, so >> “smearing” the work is already happening. The question is whether >> some structure like the above is preferred, or ad-hoc meetings as and >> when each WG wants them. > > an example > > https://ooni.org/post/2020-internet-measurement-village/#schedule > > TMA2020, which i am attending as i type, is a more classic format, > mixing zoom and slack, and is time skewed somewhat to try to have a > timezone footprint which is not too onerous for asia and the americas. > but they tried to innovate in the discussions, per-paper slack channels, > interactive q&a, etc. > > maybe the hardest part is what our community refers to as 'the hallway.' > i am looking for communities trying to innovate in this space. imiho, > this is really important. i can read your paper/draft/... and zoom +q > interaction is about as good as the mic line. but hanging out, > discussing, gossiping, ... is more important to us funny monkeys the > tools seem to support. I’ve seen a couple of conferences using gather.town – there’s a video from PLDI at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0xZLJVhzPc that talks about their plans. We’ve had some discussion of trying it with IETF, although it’s not clear it’ll work at the scale we need. Colin