On 6/11/20 7:51 AM, Jay Daley wrote: > > A final question for you - if the IESG/LLC had had the time to open up a > debate/discussion on this and the IESG/LLC had gone ahead with this > despite your opposition, would we be anywhere different from where we > are now? > I doubt that we would be in the same position as we are now, but to directly answer your question: yes. This question seems unfair to me since it seems to presuppose that we all view the process of consensus-building as a means to a very narrow end. Open discussions are valuable for other reasons, one of them being that they lead to a shared understanding of the ultimate decision(s). In this matter, if an open discussion had happened, we would have had a better understanding of the considerations behind fee proposals for this meeting. We would have developed, in advance, a model for how to approach the fee for future meetings. We may now end up doing the same things, of course, but it will be with a hint of disappointment in the fact that a consultation did not happen as it should have. This is all to say: even if we arrived at the same place that we are now (in terms of this meeting's fee) after an open discussion, it would have been a much better outcome for several other reasons.