On Mon, 2017-12-18 at 12:59 -0800, Gerald B. Cox wrote: > On Mon, Dec 18, 2017 at 12:51 PM, Adam Williamson < > adamwill@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > > The only reason we are beating a dead horse is because you keep > > > telling us that we shouldn't have beaten a dead horse in a way that > > > requires us to explain why we are doing so. Look we understand.. you > > > think we should all be friends again. Some of us however are on the > > > "Play a trick on me once, shame on you.. Play a trick on me twice.. > > > shame on me" and this is number 3 or 4.. > > > > Right. As my original mail should have made clear to you but apparently > > didn't, the point where I disagree with you is the idea that Mozilla > > has "learnt its lesson". Nothing in any Mozilla statement I've seen so > > far makes me believe that Mozilla has actually learned the right > > lesson, and as Smooge points out, it is beginning to build up a track > > record which makes me less willing to just trust that they have without > > them explicitly stating it and outlining exactly what they have changed > > in order to ensure that more things like this don't happen in future. > > > > Everyone makes mistakes - this wasn't the first by Mozilla and won't be the > last. I don't believe > they are acting out of malice. As long as they admit and correct mistakes > as they go along > that is fine with me. In any event, I don't believe this is a Fedora issue > - it's an upstream issue. > If you're unhappy with a particular direction or decision regarding Fx, it > would be better to air those > concerns upstream. Again, this is something I covered in my original mail. We distribute Firefox as the default browser to a large number of people who trust us to provide them with software. This gives us both a responsibility to our users and, presumably, some level of organized clout with Mozilla: I believe they will treat the concerns of the Fedora project with somewhat more interest than they would treat the concerns of...me. Raising it with upstream is exactly what I am suggesting, but I am suggesting that *the Fedora project* raises it with upstream. Not me. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Twitter: AdamW_Fedora | XMPP: adamw AT happyassassin . net http://www.happyassassin.net _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to devel-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
