On Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 06:48 AM, Karsten Wade wrote: > On 04/18/2017 05:27 PM, Josh Boyer wrote: > > Also, I don't want to bikeshed this mission to death word-for-word. > > Perfect is the enemy of good. If "enables" is what everyone feels is > > best, great. > > Whoops, yeah; I had a longer email a few days ago that I sat on to see > how the discussion went, and it actually suggested some colors for the > bikeshed. > > So what I like is this, with Jeff Sandys' reordering, addition of > free/open, some Oxford commas, and replacement of lights-up: > > Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community > members, and software developers to build solutions for hardware, > containers, and clouds. This structure seems to really change the meaning. We are now saying we build a thing for users, community members and developers to use to make hardware/container/cloud solutions. That reads to me like Fedora is a project that exists to enable hosting providers. I think about the mission statement as a statement that says "We make X to cause Y to happen which enables Z to do P" X = our software platform for hardware/clouds/containers Y = an ecosystem around our platform Z = our community members and developers and users P = achieve their goals (i.e. building a new web app, running a university, building the best desktop&services platform for knitters, etc.) I realize I am biased because I was part of the team that generated the original statement, but I still like the modified form of: Fedora makes an innovative free/open platform available on hardware, clouds and in containers that enables our community, users, and developers to achieve their goals. I realize that some people find "innovative" to be buzz-wordy, but I feel like we are actually innovating with initiatives like Modularity. I don't think we should lose that. We are a strong supporter of upstream, but we are also changing the world ourselves! regards, bex > (I prefer 'innovate' because I think the value of FOSS is as an > innovation engine. I dropped the extra verb that "lights up" was there > for, the verb 'build' is strong enough.) > > Here's the same thing without specifying the tech flavor-of-the-month: > > Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community > members, and software developers to build on with modern technology. > > Getting there ... > > And I apologize for how this thread has almost completely changed the > original proposal. OTOH, this is the main bikeshed, and all the other > cool decisions and ideas you came to on your recent FAD can now slip > through uncontested. :-D > > Regards, > > - Karsten > -- > Karsten Wade > Community Infrastructure Team > Open Source and Standards, @redhatopen > @quaid gpg: AD0E0C41 > > _______________________________________________ > council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > To unsubscribe send an email to > council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx > Email had 1 attachment: > + signature.asc > 1k (application/pgp-signature) _______________________________________________ council-discuss mailing list -- council-discuss@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to council-discuss-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
