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to pitch in with my cent or two, I like the new statement as well, as I think that there are many developers using Fedora and very few "pure users" (which is an assumption without any basis in statistics.) I see Fedora as already great Linux distribution for regular user, with an awesome selection of spins and labs making it really simple and comfy. I like the new mission statement, because it exactly describes my contribution to Fedora, enabling .NET Core. I would like to see Fedora as a friendly environment for dotnet developers, with all the tools necessary to write and run C# code.
Best regards,
Radka
Radka Janeková
.NET Engineer, Red Hat
IRC: radka | Freenode: Rhea
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Brian Exelbierd <bex@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 19, 2017, at 06:48 AM, Karsten Wade wrote:
> On 04/18/2017 05:27 PM, Josh Boyer wrote:
> > Also, I don't want to bikeshed this mission to death word-for-word.
> > Perfect is the enemy of good. If "enables" is what everyone feels is
> > best, great.
>
> Whoops, yeah; I had a longer email a few days ago that I sat on to see
> how the discussion went, and it actually suggested some colors for the
> bikeshed.
>
> So what I like is this, with Jeff Sandys' reordering, addition of
> free/open, some Oxford commas, and replacement of lights-up:
>
> Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community
> members, and software developers to build solutions for hardware,
> containers, and clouds.
This structure seems to really change the meaning. We are now saying we
build a thing for users, community members and developers to use to make
hardware/container/cloud solutions. That reads to me like Fedora is a
project that exists to enable hosting providers.
I think about the mission statement as a statement that says "We make X
to cause Y to happen which enables Z to do P"
X = our software platform for hardware/clouds/containers
Y = an ecosystem around our platform
Z = our community members and developers and users
P = achieve their goals (i.e. building a new web app, running a
university, building the best desktop&services platform for knitters,
etc.)
I realize I am biased because I was part of the team that generated the
original statement, but I still like the modified form of:
Fedora makes an innovative free/open platform available on hardware,
clouds and in containers that enables our community, users, and
developers to achieve their goals.
I realize that some people find "innovative" to be buzz-wordy, but I
feel like we are actually innovating with initiatives like Modularity.
I don't think we should lose that. We are a strong supporter of
upstream, but we are also changing the world ourselves!
regards,
bex
> (I prefer 'innovate' because I think the value of FOSS is as an
> innovation engine. I dropped the extra verb that "lights up" was there
> for, the verb 'build' is strong enough.)
>
> Here's the same thing without specifying the tech flavor-of-the-month:
>
> Fedora creates an innovative free/open platform for users, community
> members, and software developers to build on with modern technology.
>
> Getting there ...
>
> And I apologize for how this thread has almost completely changed the
> original proposal. OTOH, this is the main bikeshed, and all the other
> cool decisions and ideas you came to on your recent FAD can now slip
> through uncontested. :-D
>
> Regards,
>
> - Karsten
> --
> Karsten Wade
> Community Infrastructure Team
> Open Source and Standards, @redhatopen
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