Really? I wonder if this would open up a door to make computer repair easier for someone who can't see? On 10/10/14, covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx <covici@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I have heard (never tried this myself) that the knfb reader on the > iphone was actually able to read the monitor text on a screen, if so > this would be great, no substitute for a real screen reader, but > interesting nonetheless. > > Tom Fowle <wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> The idea of a stand alone screen reader hardware box with video input is >> intreaguing and has >> been tried by several folks including Dean Blazie. but that was years >> ago. >> I suspect actual screen text would be no problem, if perhaps a bit slow, >> but >> finding focus and defining/dealing with actual graphics could be a real >> headache. >> >> I think you'd need at least two processors, one to do the OCR and the >> second >> to run the screen reader and speech. Don't guess the Raspbery pi would >> have >> the "MIPS" for the ocr task. >> >> BTW, the optacon actually connected to a mac's serial port and you could >> read the screen directly with some kind of reader that Berkeley systems >> had >> as a prototype. the company died before it could be brought to full >> operation <SAD> >> >> For many years I kept seeing brags about optacon being restarted, but so >> far as i know none ever came to reality. >> >> Tom Fowle >> wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx >> >> >> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014, at 08:49 AM, Glenn wrote: >> > I do a little of that. >> > I do know a little, enough to know what is possible. >> > I studied and got a HAM license a long time ago. >> > Glenn >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Mike Ray" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:32 AM >> > Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story >> > >> > >> > >> > Get your soldering iron out then Glenn :-p >> > >> > >> > >> > On 09/10/2014 16:28, Glenn wrote: >> > > What we need is a piece of hardware that does OCR directly from the >> > > video >> > > port. >> > > It seems like that would be a relatively easy device to produce, given >> > > >> > > what >> > > we have these days. >> > > Glenn >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > To: <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system for >> > > Linux." >> > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:52 AM >> > > Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story >> > > >> > > >> > > First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could. >> > > (I also thank others who've made valuable points from different >> > > angles.) >> > > >> > > Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when >> > > we >> > > boot up? Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the >> > > same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible? >> > > >> > > Al >> > > >> > > On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> > >> I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are >> > >> a >> > >> bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the >> > >> kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which >> > >> they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers >> > >> most >> > >> people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better. >> > >> There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get >> > >> better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad >> > >> story >> > >> from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point. >> > >> On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote: >> > >>> This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to >> > >>> make >> > >>> it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues, >> > >>> but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel >> > >>> all >> > >>> the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should >> > >>> also backup their work. >> > >>> On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote: >> > >>>> Janina, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a >> > >>>> monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with >> > >>>> speakup. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up >> > >>>> to >> > >>>> begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i >> > >>>> was >> > >>>> helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to >> > >>>> begin >> > >>>> with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel >> > >>>> to >> > >>>> begin with. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, >> > >>>> it >> > >>>> wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program >> > >>>> crashes >> > >>>> it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it >> > >>>> takes >> > >>>> down the whole box. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > >> >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > > _______________________________________________ >> > > Speakup mailing list >> > > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Michael A. Ray >> > Analyst/Programmer >> > Witley, Surrey, South-east UK >> > >> > The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux >> > >> > Interested in accessibility on the Raspberry Pi? >> > Visit: http://www.raspberryvi.org/ >> > From where you can join our mailing list for visually-impaired Pi >> > hackers >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Speakup mailing list >> > Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> > http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup >> _______________________________________________ >> Speakup mailing list >> Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >> http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup > > -- > Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. 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