Janina, speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup. As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash. Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to begin with. I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes down the whole box. -- Website: http://deedra.the-brannons.com blog: http://deedra.the-brannons.com/blog _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup