Re: a little sysadmin story

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I have heard (never tried this myself) that the knfb reader on the
iphone was actually able to read the monitor text on a screen, if so
this would be great, no substitute for a real screen reader, but
interesting nonetheless.

Tom Fowle <wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> The idea of a stand alone screen reader hardware box with video input is
> intreaguing and has
> been tried by several folks including Dean Blazie.  but that was years
> ago.
> I suspect actual screen text would be no problem, if perhaps a bit slow,
> but
> finding focus and defining/dealing with actual graphics could be a real
> headache.
> 
> I think you'd need at least two processors, one to do the OCR and the
> second
> to run the screen reader and speech. Don't guess the Raspbery pi  would
> have
> the "MIPS" for the ocr task.
> 
> BTW, the optacon actually connected to a mac's serial port and you could
> read the screen directly with some kind of reader that Berkeley systems
> had
> as a prototype.  the company died before it could be brought to full
> operation <SAD>
> 
> For many years I kept seeing brags about optacon being restarted, but so
> far as i know none ever came to reality.
> 
>   Tom Fowle
>   wa6ivgtf@xxxxxxxxxxx
> 
> 
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014, at 08:49 AM, Glenn wrote:
> > I do a little of that.
> > I do know a little, enough to know what is possible.
> > I studied and got a HAM license a long time ago.
> > Glenn
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Mike Ray" <mike@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 10:32 AM
> > Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Get your soldering iron out then Glenn :-p
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On 09/10/2014 16:28, Glenn wrote:
> > > What we need is a piece of hardware that does OCR directly from the video
> > > port.
> > > It seems like that would be a relatively easy device to produce, given 
> > > what
> > > we have these days.
> > > Glenn
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux."
> > > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:52 AM
> > > Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
> > >
> > >
> > > First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could.
> > > (I also thank others who've made valuable points from different angles.)
> > >
> > > Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when we
> > > boot up?  Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the
> > > same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible?
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > > On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> > >> I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are a
> > >> bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the
> > >> kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which
> > >> they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers most
> > >> people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better.
> > >> There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get
> > >> better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad story
> > >> from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point.
> > >> On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
> > >>> This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make
> > >>> it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues,
> > >>> but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all
> > >>> the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should
> > >>> also backup their work.
> > >>> On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
> > >>>> Janina,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a
> > >>>> monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to
> > >>>> begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was
> > >>>> helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin
> > >>>> with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to
> > >>>> begin with.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it
> > >>>> wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes
> > >>>> it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes
> > >>>> down the whole box.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
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> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Michael A. Ray
> > Analyst/Programmer
> > Witley, Surrey, South-east UK
> > 
> > The box said: 'install Windows XP, 7 or better'. So I installed Linux
> > 
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