Re: a little sysadmin story

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Get your soldering iron out then Glenn :-p



On 09/10/2014 16:28, Glenn wrote:
> What we need is a piece of hardware that does OCR directly from the video 
> port.
> It seems like that would be a relatively easy device to produce, given what 
> we have these days.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Al Sten-Clanton" <albert.e.sten_clanton@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <tyler@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Speakup is a screen review system for Linux." 
> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2014 9:52 AM
> Subject: Re: a little sysadmin story
> 
> 
> First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could.
> (I also thank others who've made valuable points from different angles.)
> 
> Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when we
> boot up?  Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the
> same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible?
> 
> Al
> 
> On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>> I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are a
>> bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the
>> kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which
>> they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers most
>> people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better.
>> There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get
>> better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad story
>> from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point.
>> On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
>>> This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make
>>> it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues,
>>> but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all
>>> the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should
>>> also backup their work.
>>> On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
>>>> Janina,
>>>>
>>>> speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a
>>>> monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup.
>>>>
>>>> As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to
>>>> begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was
>>>> helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash.
>>>>
>>>> Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin
>>>> with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to
>>>> begin with.
>>>>
>>>> I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it
>>>> wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes
>>>> it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes
>>>> down the whole box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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