First, I thank Janina for raising certain issues better than I could.
(I also thank others who've made valuable points from different angles.)
Second, where is the equivalent code for kicking in the monitor when we
boot up? Shouldn't the aim be to treat our access technology in the
same or an equivalent way, to the degree possible?
Al
On 10/09/2014 09:55 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
I also wanted to point out that most companies and organizations are a
bit weird about installing anything. The fact that Speakup is in the
kernel, but the entire idea of installing a special program which
they're not sure of, be it screen reader or magnification bothers most
people, so this isn't just an issue of Speakup possibly being better.
There are reasons and there obviously is a need for speakup to get
better, perhaps that means coming out of kernel space. But a sad story
from once upon a time with a moral unrelated is not quite the point.
On 10/9/2014 9:46 AM, Littlefield, Tyler wrote:
This whole story sounds like it needs another couple of bears to make
it all interesting. So speakup crashed the kernel. I've had issues,
but apart from known bugs I've never seen speakup panic the kernel all
the time. Speakup caused a system to crash? Perhaps. People should
also backup their work.
On 10/9/2014 9:34 AM, Deedra Waters wrote:
Janina,
speakup was the cause because when bossman came down to hook up a
monitor and look, the panick messages had something to do with speakup.
As for backing up their work, they were trying to fix their fuck-up to
begin with. The initial problem wasn't with speakup. However when i was
helping them debug it, speakup made the kernel panick and crash.
Debian i dont think likes people with root access on their box to begin
with, but i think they kind of didn't like speakup in their kernel to
begin with.
I suspect on the other hand that if speakup was a user-space app, it
wouldn't have mattered to them so much. If a userspace program crashes
it doesn't take down the whole box. When speakup does though, it takes
down the whole box.
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