I also tend to agree, sadly. But with a qualification: valuable people are not typically locked in to working for employers that cannot afford to pay them to do this sort of work, if they want to do it and have value to add. -----Original Message----- From: Keith Moore <moore@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2019 2:44 PM To: Fernando Gont <fgont@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx Subject: Re: We gotta stop meeting like this Importance: High On 7/23/19 2:10 PM, Fernando Gont wrote: > On 23/7/19 16:18, Eric Gray wrote: >> Look at the impact of near-zero cost mailing (in the form of E-Mail) on the tremendous volume of trash we all receive, even after filtering, and extend that to zero cost participation in the IETF. >> >> There is value in having to pass some form of "is it worth it" test - no matter who will be actually paying for it. > That may as well keep valuable people out, and making meetings be the > turf of big companies that can afford it. even worse than it already is. (yes, I agree)