On Tue, Jul 23, 2019 at 07:17:06PM +0000, Eric Gray wrote: > I also tend to agree, sadly. But with a qualification: valuable people are not typically locked in to working for employers that cannot afford to pay them to do this sort of work, if they want to do it and have value to add. Many of the most valuable bits of work contributed to the Internet -- whether in the context of the IETF or not -- have come from people who don't enjoy the wealth and privilege that would allow them to travel to meetings. Excluding those people, whether deliberately or accidentally, from participation means selectively including those people who *do* have wealth and privilege. This risks creating a bias -- in content, in processes, in everything -- that favors the haves over the have-nots and thus works to perpetuate the cycle. I'm not suggesting that this is deliberate: in fact, I'm suggesting that it's not. But it exists, it shows up in many places, and that is worrisome. ---rsk