I disagree. A court order that say “this web site is illegal propaganda” is democratic. Or are you going to tell me that you agree with a web site with child pornography? If there is a law order to take it down, it should be taken down. But the REAL problem here is that ISOC published FAKE information without verifying it. Furthermore they didn’t asked for excuses to 45 million citizens for that, once they realized the mistake … well I’m still not sure they realized it. Do we agree with that? Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> Responder a: <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> Fecha: martes, 31 de octubre de 2017, 1:48 Para: <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> CC: "<ietf@xxxxxxxx>" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Asunto: Re: Proposal to revise ISOC's mission statement On Oct 30, 2017, at 6:50 PM, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: Either we accept that democratic countries with split power take legitimate decisions or ISOC never comments on law orders. Easy just pick one. Jordi, the whole point of freedom of speech is to enable countries to be democratic. You can't be a democratic country if there is no freedom of speech. The two are simply incompatible. So indeed our choice here is to pick zero or two. One is not one of the possible choices. ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.