Re: Proposal to revise ISOC's mission statement

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Hi,

My message was precisely to make sure that somewhere we have a clear text that avoids ISOC acting with statements against law, and making themselves unlawful and unproven comments that they can’t sustain.

NEVER AGAIN ISOC/staff can repeat that problem. ISOC MUST defend freedom of expression in Internet, but not by means of untrue statements against legitimate court orders.

Regards,
Jordi
 

-----Mensaje original-----
De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Responder a: <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: lunes, 30 de octubre de 2017, 21:27
Para: Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx>, <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Asunto: Re: Proposal to revise ISOC's mission statement

    Hi Toerless,
    At 08:38 AM 30-10-2017, Toerless Eckert wrote:
    >I thought the Internet translation of
    >"comply with all local laws and regulations"
    >was "offer services from a foreign country".
    >
    >As funny but true as it was in hmm... 1995 ? when i think i first
    >heard it, it is still the most fundamental opportunity and challenge
    >of the Internet. And i do not see a good reflection of that
    >in the mission statement.
    
    There was a message from Jordi about the Catalonia affair [1].  Is 
    that part of ISOC's mission?
    
    >Overall:
    >I do not think the mission statement as it stands right now (and
    >has in the past) is very useful. Nobody who is not deeply involved
    >in ISOC overall would be able to translate all these bullet points
    >into actual facts of interest. I can maybe translate half way 3..5
    >bullet points but i would still prefer hard facts over uninspiring
    >headlines that by themselves read only like marketing.
    
    The draft statement has been reviewed by the "IETF 
    leadership".  According to the above, it sounds like marketing.
    
    >Also:
    >ISOC is not only the Internet (surprise). I am totally missing
    >a statement about supporting proliferation of open technologies,
    >development, operations and management practices of the Internet
    >to infinity and beyond. Is that not what IoT will be all about ?
    >That is not going to be the Internet. That is going to be
    >many internets totalling much more than the Internet will ever
    >be.
    
    According to a paper from the University of Auckland, New Zealand, 
    the "Internet of Things has integrated digital services into physical goods".
    
    Regards,
    S. Moonesamy
    
    1. https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg105124.html
    
    
    
    



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