Hi, Sam,
I cannot overemphasize enough that I'm speaking as one AD here, and by "one AD" I mean that I haven't discussed this with anyone else on the IESG ...
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Sam Hartman <hartmans-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote:
John Klensin, Brian Carpenter, myself and perhaps Dave Crocker have all
raised objections that the recall process is unlikely to work in cases
of harassment. We've each discussed problems with the committee itself
both in terms of fairness and confidentiality of information provided by
subject and reporter.
Right. That's what I think I've seen.
If I'm reading this part of the conversation accurately, at least some of those people are objecting that the recall process is unlikely to work in any case.
If I needed to be recalled, I'm not sure it matters much why I need to be recalled (harassment, or some other reason).
If the vast majority of the community thinks the recall process would work perfectly if we ever tried to use it running to completion, all they have to do is say so.
But if that's not the case ... I would encourage people to think about fixing the recall process more broadly.
I understand that some of the mechanics may very well be different for harassment, but I would encourage people to make the process work in the general case, and then start making changes to accommodate the ways that harassment is different.
Maybe it's not possible to have a process for harassment removals that looks anything like recalls for other reasons, but I would encourage the community to special-case as little as possible here.
Speaking only for myself, of course.
And I'm here all week, if people want to corner me in the hall and talk. Or something.
Spencer, who suspects that both Adrian and Pete can sign a recall petition for me on Thursday morning, if that was the right thing to do :D