Les Mikesell wrote:
Rahul Sundaram wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
Yes, but now we are back to the fact that the jpackage ones didn't
conflict with anything until fedora started including conflicting
ones, so it seems in bad taste to blame the third party.
I didn't blame anyone. Just stated facts.
Same here. No conflicts existed until fedora packagers duplicated
packages that already existed in well-known repositories and forked them
instead of mirroring.
A cross distribution package repository is always going to be different
from a distribution specific repository.
Which still doesn't explain why any needed package that existed
elsewhere couldn't be maintained identically to eliminate the conflict
issue. Maybe there's a case of that somewhere but I'm not convinced it
would have been a problem in general. Would jpackage really have
refused to have the same maintainer make sure common packages were
always identical?
It is impossible to do that. Fedora has its own release cycle, licensing
policies and packaging guidelines. The package dependencies will differ
in many cases based on all of these.
Factor 1 is that the fedora repo doesn't include everything that the
pre-existing repositories provided and users still need. Whenever this
comes up you respond about legalities/policy etc., etc., but the reasons
don't matter. The fact is they aren't there. This shouldn't be an
issue, since the other repos are still around, but...
Software packages are in the Fedora repository because people
volunteered to do so. That has nothing to do with legalities or policies
and yes those might be a reason too and goes to the core of why such
third party repositories even exist regardless of whether you care about
them or not.
Factor 2 is that _some_ of the packages from the 3rd party repos were
forked into potentially conflicting versions that may cause problems
with the original, while factor 1 ensures that you can't get all of the
packages you are likely to need without them. And a side effect seems
to be that the old repos are no longer particularly interested in
supporting fedora.
That's not the real reason again as explained to you earlier.
If you can't address the effects of both factors at once, I guess there
really isn't anything else to say.
If you keep ignoring what is being said to you, there is no point
indeed. Move on.
Rahul
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