Am 10.02.2012 18:32, schrieb Adam Williamson: > On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 18:21 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 10.02.2012 18:05, schrieb Adam Williamson: >>> On Fri, 2012-02-10 at 13:13 +0100, Reindl Harald wrote: >>> Everyone on this list is well aware of the fact that you consider >>> systemd a terrible failure because not every package in Fedora yet has >>> systemd-native init scripts, but by the same token, it is clear that >>> almost no-one agrees with you. On a solid practical level, I am not >>> aware that systemd is currently the source of any major problems in >>> Fedora 15, 16 or 17. >> >> F15 was horrible broken >> mysqld in F15 was horrible broken > > My servers ran F15 for six months. Never had a problem with mysql. As I > recall, your issues with mysql were to do with a specific fairly > advanced use case, hardly general-purpose stuff. and this is what blindly butchers not realize: there are well maintained servers not running only plain default configs >> F15 was the first Linux i saw where "reboot" did not >> work until you typed "kill 1" while praying! > > I ran F15 on four machines for months, didn't have that problem. If lots > of people had, I would have expected to hear a lot more noise. dmaned you make the dist-upgrade once and not over years >> if no one agress that is unacceptable that init-system >> is changed in F15 and F17 still contains not converted >> services then no one knows how quality looks like > > I don't agree, no. systemd was explicitly written to be 100% > sysv-compatible BUT IT IS NOT AND IT WAS NEVER AND IT WILL NEVER why are VMware-Workstation machines are killed hardly as they was clean suspended until systemd came into my life? yes, it is not a fedora package but that does not matter and prove your argument is wrong - if it would be 100% comatible it would not act like a blind butcher at shutdown even this service does not help as long as it is not stopped manually before type reboot/shutdown, so please leave me in peace with theory where the real life is painful [root@srv-rhsoft:~]$ cat /etc/systemd/system/vmware-default.service [Unit] Description=VMware-Default-Machines After=vmware.service [Service] Type=oneshot ExecStart=/bin/su -c "/scripts/vmware/vm-default-start.sh" vmware ExecStop=/scripts/vmware/vm-suspend-all.sh RemainAfterExit=yes TimeoutSec=600 SysVStartPriority=90 [Install] WantedBy=multi-user.target _________________ if it would be 100% compatible all my mysqld problems of services are crashing because they was fired up long before mysqld was ready for connections would never have existed
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