On Thu, Feb 9, 2012 at 11:57 AM, Ralf Corsepius <rc040203@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > IMO, Fedora has obvious problems with its > - work-flow (Too immature SW migrates/sneaks through from Alpha/Beta to > Final) If you feel this is the case, feel free to help improve the work-flow, or at a minimum help write better Alpha/Beta/Final release criteria to help us catch things you consider immature. > - management, whom seems to be driven by a "must have at any price, no point > of return ever" policy. I'm not sure who you're referring to as "management" here -- if you talking about the FPL, I can say that during my time as FPL I never took that attitude. If you're talking about FESCo, I don't think they have that attitude either. To slightly twist Hanlon's Razor for a moment, I think you're ascribing to malice that which can adequately be explained by a lot of moving pieces and not enough work on integrating those moving pieces together. Let's be honest here -- I don't think anyone here wants to blatantly throw features in Fedora at any price with no point of return. We all have a vested interest in seeing Fedora be successful. So, instead of blindly blaming the management, how about we all try doing a little better communication and integration. Trying to judge (or mischaracterize) other people's motivations doesn't help Fedora get any better. -- Jared Smith -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel