On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Reindl Harald <h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Am 10.02.2012 10:06, schrieb "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson": >> The state of overall migration to systemd is depended on each package maintainer(s) >> and at current rate that wont be finished until F20+. > > so fedora has STOPPED to be a distribution > > it is a bundle of packages which hopefully work together and nobody > feels repsonsible for anything, things may happen or not or somewhere > in a undefined fuuture > > the definition of a distribution is that all packages are comonig > from one central source (repos) and are optimized to work together > and not "everybody does like he feel and if things are not badly > enough broken they will not be touched" I quite agree this is (becoming?) a problem - but can you suggest a workable solution? What can FESCo practically do when tens of packagers simply ignore the bugs filed against their components? More importantly, what can FESCo practically do when a component has an abrt bug open for 5 months, roughly 1 new reporter per day is added, and the package owner has not done a single action in bugzilla? [1] If the answer is "kick the package out of the distribution", I'm sad to say the distribution would have some glaring holes. We really need to find a good solution for these cases, or Fedora will, as you say, stop being a distribution. So far, the best I idea can think of is to open up provenpackager access much more, and make it much more acceptable to use it - but that would bring problems of its own. Mirek [1] Yes, this really exists. Another similarly widely-reported bug took 4 months to fix, and I've informally been told there are quite a few such cases. In both cases details withheld, fingerpointing won't help answer the question above. -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel