On 02/10/2012 11:59 AM, Miloslav Trmač wrote:
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Reindl Harald<h.reindl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Am 10.02.2012 10:06, schrieb "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson":
The state of overall migration to systemd is depended on each package maintainer(s)
and at current rate that wont be finished until F20+.
so fedora has STOPPED to be a distribution
it is a bundle of packages which hopefully work together and nobody
feels repsonsible for anything, things may happen or not or somewhere
in a undefined fuuture
the definition of a distribution is that all packages are comonig
from one central source (repos) and are optimized to work together
and not "everybody does like he feel and if things are not badly
enough broken they will not be touched"
I quite agree this is (becoming?) a problem - but can you suggest a
workable solution?
What can FESCo practically do when tens of packagers simply ignore the
bugs filed against their components?
More importantly, what can FESCo practically do when a component has
an abrt bug open for 5 months, roughly 1 new reporter per day is
added, and the package owner has not done a single action in bugzilla?
[1]
If the answer is "kick the package out of the distribution", I'm sad
to say the distribution would have some glaring holes.
We really need to find a good solution for these cases, or Fedora
will, as you say, stop being a distribution.
So far, the best I idea can think of is to open up provenpackager
access much more, and make it much more acceptable to use it - but
that would bring problems of its own.
Mirek
[1] Yes, this really exists. Another similarly widely-reported bug
took 4 months to fix, and I've informally been told there are quite a
few such cases. In both cases details withheld, fingerpointing won't
help answer the question above.
Agreed
The ownership model is playing a big role in systemd migration feature
incompletion's along with inefficient package cleanup process as well
along with the whole the definition of the feature process.
Expecting feature of this magnitude to be completed in one release cycle
is just unrealistic and try to make it adhere to the same laws as
introducing some new application or an feature in application is just
absurd ..
JBG
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