"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johannbg@xxxxxxxxx) said: > Nobody has said anything that upstart was being deprecated nobody! Actually, I'll say that, sort of. Fedora 14 should only ship with one automatic init system. Given the current feature, that would be systemd. If it fails, that would be upstart. But I'm firmly of the opinion that allowing people to pick their own set of breakage in init systems is a really bad idea. Bill -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel