On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 09:22 -0400, Matthew Miller wrote: > I am not getting the message from this thread that systemd developers > believe that. Rather, we get "it's clearly a matter of taste and > bike-shedding", and "I probably shouldn't even have bothered to even reply > to this mail of yours." Matt, anyone can pull two quotes out of an ongoing thread and make someone look bad. I'd have no trouble doing the same for you in this thread. Lennart has already posted messages making it clear he's considering, has already accepted or even has already implemented several suggestions from this thread. It's simply disingenuous to suggest he's not listening to feedback. Can we please stick to the technical issues here? That is, how we should implement systemd to make the transition from upstart/sysv as painless as possible, and perhaps some semantic improvements to the parameters and command names Lennart has chosen for systemd. These really don't need to be emotive issues. -- Adam Williamson Fedora QA Community Monkey IRC: adamw | Fedora Talk: adamwill AT fedoraproject DOT org http://www.happyassassin.net -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel