2010/7/22 "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" <johannbg@xxxxxxxxx>: > I think it's time to re-inform everyone since they seemed to be so > focused on systemd and have completely forgot about upstart. > > Nobody has said anything that upstart was being deprecated nobody! That's not exactly what I'm talking about... though that's certainly another fallback position which should I hope provide enough of a fallback solution for Chris others who agree with him. I'm talking about the _better_ fallback position of relying on systemd's compatibility with sysinit style init instead of systemd native files when specific sysadmins find that their configuration/management infrastructure isn't ready to handle the native files and then work towards moving services to native as they get more confident in the new configuration format. Sure going back to upstart provides a fallback, but not in a way that encourages people to start dealing with the changes in their local policy and to wrap their heads around systemd native stuff. I don't want to help people hide from systemd, I want to encourage admins to get familiar with systemd at the pace that makes sense for them in their environment. I think advertising sysinit styled init fallback running under systemd with no native configs that admins can choose makes sense if we can do it. -jef -- devel mailing list devel@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel