----- Original Message ----- > On Fri, Feb 02, 2018 at 05:42:20AM -0500, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > > > If you know of branding uses that aren't in this list: > > > > https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/DownstreamBranding > > > > please add them there. > > > I see three possible recommend states, but none of the items in the > > > list have such a flag set. > > None of them have been reviewed yet, because no designer wants to touch > > the subject. The content of this thread is why. > > This says to me "no GNOME designer is invested in Fedora success". A number of the "GNOME designers" are Red Hat employees, also working on Fedora. They read this mailing-list, they won't want to touch this subject, and I can understand why. > (Additionally, the sole entry under "Related Links" on that page loudly > signals that engagement is unlikely to be productive.) That's fine. > It's not their job. That's why I bring this up here, rather than > focusing on the upstream page. > > > But the discussion isn't about whether to replace GNOME branding by Fedora > > branding, but how to use different kinds of branding to reach the goals we > > set out (which we didn't explicitly yet, and that might be part of the > > problem). > > The high level goal is: It is important to increase Fedora brand reach > and recognition. This is good, can you expand more about the goals? > A strong visual identity is an important part of this. This is already getting into finding solutions when the problem(s) and goal(s) hasn't been properly laid down. A goal could be: - A Fedora user should be able to differentiate Fedora Workstation from a Debian GNOME installation looking at normal desktop use. - A Fedora user should be able to differentiate Fedora Workstation from an Arch GNOME installation looking at screenshots of terminal usage. - A Fedora developer (not a Fedora-using developer) should be able to differentiate Fedora Workstation from an OpenSUSE installation looking at a locked screen. (With different combinations of who is looking at what, trying to differentiate it from what) A non-goal could be: - I should be able to differentiate Fedora Workstation and an updated RHEL installation. - I should be able to differentiate different versions of Fedora from each other > There are several things which follow from that, but that's all there > is to the basic request. We're not going to be able to move forward without more details on those goals, so I hope you can find the time to articulate them further. Cheers _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
