----- Original Message ----- > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 05:18:17PM +0100, Mathieu Bridon wrote: > > > I can buy your argument for initial boot-up. But not when a user is > > > seeing something for what is guaranteed to be a longer period of > > > time. > > I doubt that's what you meant, but this sounds like an advertiser > > selling his ad space, telling their customers how they have a "captive > > audience". > > I don't think that's what's meant at all, no. > > Fedora is not a generic, white-box operating system. People see our > logo and have positive, happy thoughts. Let's capitalize on that. I > generally hate being advertised at, but when my Android phone boots, I > don't think "oh %#$@%@, the capitalist overlords have me trapped". I > think "hey, that's a pretty nifty logo representing the device I chose > to purchase". It's probably not the analogy you wanted to use. Do you see a Google logo during bootup? No, because it's the hardware vendor's logo. There have been attempts in the past at keeping the EFI logo on screen during boot, though they never really went anywhere because we still need to have GRUB pause and stop, because we can't be certain the keyboard will be working properly at that point, and we'd want to be able to stop the boot process. Anyway, it's a hardware vendor logo, not the OS logo. > We've been talking about establishing some visual cues to help build > Fedora Workstation identity for a long time. Maybe Stephen's suggestion > isn't the best thing we can come up with, but c'mon, everybody. Please > come up with *something*. You say that, but what you wanted, you always got, despite people like me and others saying we didn't like the ideas. Since the last time, we got a default hostname of "fedora" visible on the network, for UPnP and mDNS services, the Details panel patch to show the OS version in the Settings will soon be getting upstream, so it's not nothing. If you know of branding uses that aren't in this list: https://wiki.gnome.org/Design/OS/DownstreamBranding please add them there. Eventually, somebody will grade those changes, but it's kind of difficult telling integrators that their ideas of branding have been bad, or could be better served in other ways. We see that every time the discussion comes up here, and it's certainly not a discussion I enjoy having. If somebody wants to pick up a low-hanging fruit, making the default command-line prompt be more colourful and detailed is a good way to have cheap branding. Those in the know will change it if they don't like it, Fedora will be more recognisable, and the form will follow function. _______________________________________________ desktop mailing list -- desktop@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx To unsubscribe send an email to desktop-leave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
