On 2018-02-02 03:56, Chris Murphy wrote:
On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 7:38 PM, <mcatanzaro@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
It's simply not true. Upstream's designs call for a well-integrated user
experience where the noise background begins on the bootloader theme,
continues through plymouth, and arrives at the login screen.
Which part is not true? I'm about to laugh at the idea of upstream
GNOME having an opinion over a metric butttonne of work they've not
put any effort into building, and have no real claim over. My god
there are a bunch of examples where this kind of overreach is
summarily rejected. How fantastic it would be if this kind of claim
were applied to dnf and PackageKit teams and inform them to cooperate
better so we could, you know, solve a real problem rather than this
cosmetic one. I would love that.
It's probably good to think less about "who owns what part" and more
think about what creates a better user experience.
If you compare the current Fedora boot experience to the ones on Windows
or MacOS, the Fedora experience is a lot more jarring and unpolished.
This is the measure stick that people will hold up. They couldn't care
less about how we as creators of the system end up organizing our work.
The example posted elsewhere in the thread of how RHEL 7 solves it looks
like a great step in the right direction.
To me, as an end user of the system, it doesn't matter if that ends up
changing the Plymouth to match GDM, or change GDM to match Plymouth, as
long as it's less of a jarring experience compared to now.
- Andreas
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