Russell,
Thanks for your help. But we don't seem to be making any progress.
I think I figured out where you were getting the mode lines you gave
me -- they are from the Monitor itself. But do they work? Nope. The
1024x768 is reasonable, but still "shaky" (the overall skew per line
is small, but it moves). I also noticed that DDC suddenly started
working too. I guess I had made my monitor upset sending weird
modelines, and so DDC turned itself for a while that night I was
testing.
Additionally DDC returns a different model number each time! I can
only guess it's meaning to return "1710" since that's the only one
that makes sense (even if it's not near "7454", "7854", "5478" (even
bit-wise... unless we are talking about bit-skew, not bit
replacement). I checked and the other DDC info doesn't seem to
change each time X reads it -- but that model number sure does!
After the modes it gave didn't work, I thought I would try doing
this:
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "CTX:1710"
VendorName "CTX"
ModelName "CTX:1710"
EndSection
And basically let X figure out everything. (I also tried it with just
your new ranges (24-95, 50-160, I think that was what it was you
sent)). All of that still produced less than desirable results --
especially still for 1280 modes (and without telling X anything, it
wouldn't do 1600x1200).
The interesting thing is where the monitor gives out it's own ranges:
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 35.20 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 37.50 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 37.90 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 46.90 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 48.10 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 56.50 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 60.00 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using hsync value of 64.00 kHz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using vrefresh value of 56.00 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using vrefresh value of 60.00 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using vrefresh value of 70.00 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using vrefresh value of 72.00 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): CTX:1710: Using vrefresh value of 75.00 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Clock range: 12.00 to 400.00 MHz
Which makes it look, to me, like a fixed frequency monitor. But I
know it can't be. Those look more like the frequencies that are
listed in the manual for the particular set of modes it touts support.
A little earlier I got:
(II) RADEON(0): Supported VESA Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): 720x400@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@67Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 640x480@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@56Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@72Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 800x600@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 832x624@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@87Hz (interlaced)
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@60Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@70Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1024x768@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1280x1024@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): 1152x870@75Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Manufacturer's mask: 0
(II) RADEON(0): Supported Future Video Modes:
(II) RADEON(0): #0: hsize: 640 vsize 480 refresh: 120 vid: 31793
(II) RADEON(0): #1: hsize: 800 vsize 600 refresh: 120 vid: 31813
(II) RADEON(0): #2: hsize: 1024 vsize 768 refresh: 100 vid: 26721
(II) RADEON(0): #3: hsize: 1152 vsize 864 refresh: 100 vid: 26737
(II) RADEON(0): #4: hsize: 1280 vsize 1024 refresh: 85 vid: 39297
(II) RADEON(0): #5: hsize: 1600 vsize 1200 refresh: 72 vid: 19625
(And directly after, the modelines I figure you used to make the
monitor section you had me try).
So my question is, where are these VESA modelines my monitor says it
supports. Would I have better luck with them? Why aren't these
automatically considered by X?
(Instead it seems to go through the list trying out ones
sequentially, in an attempt to maximize the frequencies (which I think
is the exact thing, high frequencies, that causes problems). Here is
what X does on auto pilot:
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "640x350" (vrefresh out of
range)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "320x175" (vrefresh out of
range)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "640x400" (vrefresh out of
range)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "320x200" (vrefresh out of
range)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "720x400" (vrefresh out of
range)
...snip....
(II) RADEON(0): Not using default mode "700x525" (hsync out of range)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1600x1200" (no mode of this name)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "1152x864" (no mode of this name)
(II) RADEON(0): Not using mode "640x350" (no mode of this name)
(--) RADEON(0): Virtual size is 1280x960 (pitch 1280)
(**) RADEON(0): Default mode "1280x960": 108.0 MHz, 60.0 kHz, 60.0 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1280x960" 108.00 1280 1376 1488 1800 960 961
964 10
00 +hsync +vsync
(**) RADEON(0): Default mode "1024x768": 78.8 MHz, 60.1 kHz, 75.1 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "1024x768" 78.80 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769
772 80
0 +hsync +vsync
(**) RADEON(0): Default mode "800x600": 49.5 MHz, 46.9 kHz, 75.0 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "800x600" 49.50 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604
625 +h
sync +vsync
(**) RADEON(0): Default mode "640x480": 31.5 MHz, 37.5 kHz, 75.0 Hz
(II) RADEON(0): Modeline "640x480" 31.50 640 656 720 840 480 481 484
500 -hs
ync -vsync
(++) RADEON(0): DPI set to (100, 100)
)
I guess it's really picking at straws, because the modes my monitor
explicity gave mode lines for, didn't even work. So perhaps I just
can't go high frequency anymore -- it's broke? (I have been in text
console mode for a few weeks before I got the new video card).
But I still would like to try those VESA modes, that gets me to 1280
(maybe). Can I just figure them based on the numbers that are given,
or is there a table of them somewhere?
Or what? I'm definately not the professional here :) . So what do
you all think?
Thanks again,
Gryn (Adam)
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