Welp, I've spent the better part of 4 or 5 hours trying out various modelines and reading about modelines, etc. And well, I can't get it to do any better than the defaults. Also, I found my monitor manual (it is from 1997), and I can't find anything in it except: Res H1/V1 H2/V2 1280x1024 91.1/85 64/60 1024x768 79/100 68.7/85 800x600 76/120 62.5/100 etc.. The rest is about how I shouldn't put my monitor in extreme cold or heat, etc., in about five or six different languages. No matter what I try, I seem to get staggering lines. So, I would wager it's with the horizontal timings. I have no effect similar in my text console, but I'm only running 80x50, at the moment. I still think the monitor has gotten old (that is, finally broke). But that's just my opinion -- solidified only by that this all worked with a Voodoo 3000 only a few weeks ago, but now it does not. Is the above information enough? The exact model is a CTX VL710. And 1280x1024 (or 960) used to be very crisp and nice to work in. Now it's a headache just for a few seconds. Is there a better utility to try out different modes?? I had to restart X for each change. I know I could have made about 10 or so trails and done them all at once... but sill that's not as good as something like xvidtune. But xvidtune only let me change some of the settings (and they didn't seem to change the problem, much). I appreciate all you all's help so far, it has been very useful and timely -- thanks. I guess I'll start shopping around for a replacement monitor. (I wish I could afford a 17" LCD). Thanks again, Gryn (Adam) _______________________________________________ Newbie@XFree86.Org *** To unsubscribe , or change message options, see: http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/newbie