Re: [users] kmix - audacity - hiss & feedback when recording

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On 2020-12-27 11:32:02 William Morder via tde-users wrote:
> On Friday 11 December 2020 13:10:15 William Morder wrote:
> > On Thursday 10 December 2020 13:06:05 Dr. Nikolaus Klepp wrote:
> > > hi Bill!
> > >
> > > Anno domini 2020 Thu, 10 Dec 12:47:09 -0800
> > >
> > >  William Morder via tde-users scripsit:
> > > > Just wondering if anybody else here has encountered this problem, and
> > > > what to do about it.
> > > >
> > > > When I play an instrument through kmix, I must enable loopback
> > > > mixing, but this creates a hiss in the speakers, which in turn tends
> > > > to create feedback -- in particular, when I plug in a hollow-body
> > > > electric guitar.
> > > >
> > > > This has only been a problem since I upgraded from Devuan Jessie. I
> > > > used to play through my computer speakers all the time, using them
> > > > like a guitar amplifier. (There is another device, a headphone
> > > > amplifier, which I use as a kind of pre-amp.) But otherwise, nothing
> > > > in my setup has changed, except that I have upgraded to Devuan
> > > > Beowulf.
> > > >
> > > > I would like to get rid of that hiss, and I don't remember having to
> > > > enable loopback mixing before. I have only recorded a little since
> > > > upgrading (using audacity), but it doesn't seem to affect recording
> > > > quality too much, because I plug headphones into my computer
> > > > speakers, which eliminates both hiss & feedback problems.
> > > >
> > > > Sorry for the detailed presentation; feel free to snip. The main
> > > > problem is kmix-trinity, and whether anything has changed between
> > > > Devuan Jessie and Beowulf, namely, loopback mixing. Or have I somehow
> > > > misconfigured it?
> > > >
> > > > Bill
> > >
> > > If I recall correctly the loopbackdevice is connected internally to
> > > PCM, but not to the line-in-plugs. That hising is just noise. Please
> > > start alsamixer and play around with the controls, on some hardware you
> > > need to bring the sound devices into a "good" state before kmix can
> > > take over.
> > >
> > > Nik
> >
> > Hail, Nik! Greetings from my hell of cacophony. I hate noise, unless I
> > make it myself, in which case I call it jazz.
> >
> > Thanks for the tip on alsamixer. I don't know when last I looked at it.
> > I've played round with it a little, and it did help me to enable both
> > channels on surround (when the right channel was diminished for unknown
> > reasons). I still haven't figured out the source of the hiss, but I
> > haven't gone through every possible option yet.
> >
> > If it worked before without the hiss, then it seems reasonable to expect
> > that I can restore those settings again. I'll report more, if I find
> > anything worth telling.
> >
> > Bill
>
> Okay, so maybe an update on this issue is worth posting.
>
> After playing round with all my settings, I discovered that rear mic was
> enabled for input source. I didn't remember having changed this, but it's
> easy to correct. Once more I set my input source as line-in; also, I turned
> down the sound levels for these items. No more hiss, no more feedback, so
> the issue would seem to be resolved ... almost.
>
> I restarted kmix and alsamixer, and my settings were preserved; but after a
> reboot, the same problems arise again. Input source resets for rear mic
> instead of line-in, and the sound level is changed to 100% instead of 0%.
>
> The underlying issue -- why *something* keeps resetting to rear mic, and
> changing the sound level -- is the problem. I *believe* that, after
> restarting kmix and alsamixer, I ought to be able to preserve my chosen
> settings as defaults, rather than having settings revert to something else.
> (As I noted earlier, this was never an issue until I upgraded to Beowulf;
> in Jessie, I got my settings right, then left it alone, and everything was
> always fine.)
>
> I have already tracked down the config file:
>
> /home/<USER>/.trinity/share/config/kmixrc
>
> -- but it doesn't seem to help. The config files in opt
> (/opt/trinity/share/config.kcfg/) don't seem to do anything for me.
>
> So how to preserve my mixer or sound system settings through reboots?
>
> Bill

	There is also .trinity/share/config/kmictrlrc, which on my machine has
entries for rear-mic and rear-mic-boost; see if that has pertinence, and
perhaps make it read-only once the settings are right?

Leslie
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