Lets raise the dead once more. I have been using the Prado framework, prado uses the .net architecture, so it is easy and fast to learn for those who came from a Microsoft platform, anyway prado is very good to build UI, but there is always a *but*!! Prado database abstraction model it is just bad something like hibernate mixed with some ORM, or maybe i just don't like the java way of doing things. Angelo -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php