Re: Re: Why MS Won't Retire Browsers -- was: Interntet Explorer 8 beater 2

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On 16 Sep 2008, at 15:59, tedd wrote:
At 9:53 PM +0100 9/15/08, Stut wrote:
As for Microsoft (will people please stop screwing with their name, it's impolite), they've certainly made some bad choices over the years and Windows has suffered for it.

I screw with the M$ name because I don't like them!

It's not due to their questionable business practices that ultimately ended Gates in front of Congress answering questions; or running Netscape out of business; or the hundreds of other instances of them being a dick, but rather what they did to *me*.

You see, many years ago M$ developed and provided QuickBasic for the Mac. Myself and hundreds of other developers devoted our livelihoods to that product.

Then one day, M$ sent out notice that they would no longer support QuickBasic and that was the end of that. All of our current, and past work, was on a dead-end street. We were left to fend for ourselves.

I don't mean any disrespect but devoting your livelihood on a technology with a single provider is probably not the smartest move you've made. It's not nice for Microsoft to have pulled support for it but they're a business and they made that decision because they didn't see a profitable future there, they weren't out to screw you.

Imagine if PHP suddenly stopped development and you had to find a different language (i.e., ruby). Sure we could all do it, but we picked this language for a reason and now we have to choose again -- and perhaps that choice was our second choice. I don't like being forced to settle for my second choice.

Speaking only for myself I would have no problem with it at all, for a few reasons...

1) PHP is open source so the chances of development stopping dead is highly unlikely even if Zend were to cease to be.

2) PHP is not my strongest language, and it definitely isn't the only language I know. I work hard to make sure I'm up with current developments in C/C++, C#, Ruby and a number of other languages. I've recently started learning Scala. I've also engineered my career so it involves more than one core language/technology at any one time so my CV stays fresh and my options stay plentiful.

3) I have no real preference for a particular language or technology. Throughout my career I've had the attitude that the method of software engineering is far more important than the tools. I feel confident that I could apply my skills using any language, something that's been tested a few times over the years.

Now, should have M$ continued to support a product that wasn't making sufficient money for them? I dunno, but I don't care either -- they screwed with my life and I'll spend the rest of it calling M $, M$.

That's your choice, but don't take offence when I say that's changed my opinion of you somewhat.

Similarly, I had a run-in with American Express over 30 years ago and even to this day I return all their sales promotion in their self-addressed no-postage envelope they provide. Over the years, I suspect they have paid postage for over 100 pounds of profitless correspondence and the time for their staff to examine it.

You're not alone in doing this, but how much a dent do you really think you've made in their profits? It's like spam, if it wasn't worth doing they wouldn't do it. Your efforts would be better spent trying to get your address blacklisted... or learning Scala!

Now, do I have problems? Perhaps, but I'm happy. :-)

Good for you.

-Stut

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