On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 9:30 AM, Jay Blanchard <jblanchard@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > This is not the only real measure of a good framework, it is just one of > many. I wrote a tool a long time ago that does the table/form/query bit > in well under 5 minutes with several permutations. A good framework is > measured by ease of use and solving of common problems. i agree with you here but i would add that there are tradeoffs in any design. for example, the great strength of code igniter is its simplicity; that is also its great weakness. its so simple; i and any newb could start cranking out pages in no time. but... alas, as i started to use ci for a project i uncovered many limitations. i consider it something only suitable for smaller applications after using it for just one project. as such, i suspect there are more complicated frameworks, whereby pages take more time to create initially, but have a smaller number of limitations. -nathan