> -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Donald [mailto:gdonald@xxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2008 4:17 PM > To: php-general@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: Re: What's wrong the __autoload()? > > On 3/13/08, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Sooooo... there we have it everyone... Greg has admitted that Ruby is as > smart as a cat. > > Hahaha.. yeah, you really got me on that one. > > /me slaps his knee. > > > I like something a little more edgy personally. Something closer to > human... something > > with personality, something that evolves, something not afraid to be > itself. PHP fits > > the bill. > > PHP is anything but itself. Before it was actually written in C it > was first written in Perl. And although it may be written in C and > may look like C and Perl right now, it's clearly evolving into > something very similar to Java. PHP has a long, long history with > identity crisis, ongoing even today. > > Meanwhile Ruby was written as a full-on OO language from the start. > The OO layer didn't get "strapped on" at version 3 like with PHP. OO > was the main idea from the very start with Ruby. As a result Ruby's > OO model makes PHP's OO model look like a steaming pile of shit out in > the pasture. Hell, Perl's OO even makes PHP's OO look bad > syntax-wise. > > > -- > Greg Donald > http://destiney.com/ Sorry dude, RoR is still an academic toy. And not the most successful one, since I've heard people talking like you back in 2005. Ruby on Rails is not new and has not proved anything yet. It's an arrogant language, so much arrogant that its community pretend it can fix the world. Back in 2005 I was very enthusiastic and thought it could have a future, but after confirming what other poster said "the RoR community is insane", I didn't give a f... anymore. I believe it will become some piece of *enterprise-class* piece of dust in the best of scenarios. In the meantime, the web moves towards PHP more and more. And if they need a fat cat... they don't use RoR, just the "Tom Cat". Look at it this way, in 2001 M$ released the .Net Framework. It's been 7 YEARS since PHP is STILL the leader and will be so for many more years. And .Net has the "glorious" Visual Studio IDE, compiled code, built-in caching, and idiot-proof tools, and has the BIGGEST software company behind. Do you think that the work of "a man" can do much more than that? Specially, a man that has the arrogance of a big Co.? "In March 2007 David Heinemeier Hansson filed three Rails related trademark applications to the USPTO. These applications regard the phrase "RUBY ON RAILS", the word "RAILS" and the official Rails logo. As a consequence, in the summer of 2007 Hansson denied to Apress the permission to use the Rails logo on the cover of a new Rails book written by some authoritative community members. The episode gave rise to a polite protest in the Rails community. In response to this criticism, Hansson made the following claims: <quote> I only grant promotional use [of the Rails logo] for products I'm directly involved with. Such as books that I've been part of the development process for or conferences where I have a say in the execution. I would most definitely seek to enforce all the trademarks of Rails </quote> Sorry, even if it was the ONE AND ONLY programming language... I will dismiss it until it becomes a "business need", as I don't even trust its creator. PHP is easy to deal with, it's free... and IT GETS THE JOB DONE. You mentioned something about projects done on RoR you can share... why don't you show us your PHP work instead? Maybe you like RoR more because you suck at PHP. Regards, Rob -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
