On Wed, 2008-03-12 at 16:11 -0500, Greg Donald wrote: > On 3/12/08, Robert Cummings <robert@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Yes, but some of your diatribe was originally directed my way. And this > > stuff certainly isn't new to me. > > Sure it is, else you'd be using it.. like all the smart PHP > programmers I see on the Rails list looking to expand their tool set > on a daily basis. Just because someone got a flashy new toy doesn't mean I want it. I've got better things to do than play with flashy toys for the mere purpose of playing with flashy toys. I like to use tools that get jobs done. > > Awwww. you're so considerate... but really, there's no need, I'm sure I > > can understand things well beyond your own capabilities. > > There's been no indication of that up to now. I try not to flaunt it... humility teaches volumes. I could send you a care package if you want... I'll even throw in some T.P. to help you clean up your act. > > You're chasing your tail here. That would be true of any language. And > > since such "meta programming capabilities" exist in other languages, > > obviously they were thought up at some point when they didn't exist at > > all. One need not know of something to be able to invent it... see how > > that works. I could dumb it down for you if you want. > > You're confusing language designer with language user. A language > user can only use what features he has been provided to use. I'm not confusing anything. A language user can propose features, and even implement them via another language to add them to the language in question. In open source there's plenty of overlap between language designer and language user. > You just keep beating that PHP rock with that PHP hammer. Pay no > attention when someone utters the words "better" or "easier". Ummm, I originally looked into Ruby and RoR because someone spouted off "better" and "easier". After reviewing, looking at the language, trying some code, reading other peoples blogs, magazine articles, searching the web... I decided, using the brain I've been nurturing since I was a fetus, that I preferred PHP. > Why not just go ahead and make yourself a mail filter too.. put > gdonald@xxxxxxxxx right at the top. But then who would confront your rhetoric and propaganda? > > of which you speak. You dismiss their experience, reasoning, and > > preference and presume yourself superior... > > What reasoning? "I saw a 5 minute tutorial on Rails, I didn't > understand some of it, therefore Ruby sucks?" That's not reasoning > and it certainly doesn't gain one any experience, You're assuming that we choose PHP over RoR based on having seen a 5 minute tutorial. Wow, aren't you just full of assumptions. Didn't you see the episode of Cheers about what happens when you "assume"? > unless laziness recently became a virtue. Interestingly, laziness is one of the biggest motivators of innovation. Do more with less. That SHOULD be part of any developers mandate... but not blindly. > > get over yourself. > > You first. Been there, done that. Now it's your turn. Cheers, Rob. -- http://www.interjinn.com Application and Templating Framework for PHP -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
