Re: PF gallery 04-10-10 disturbance

Rob Miracle <rob@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> · Sun, 11 Apr 2010 13:41:47 -0400

I'm a member of a site called Model Mayhem.  This site frequently has
to draw the line between art and porn.  They have a very simple set of
guidelines to determine and manage the Art/Porn debate as well as SFW
vs NSFW.

This debate doesn't seem to be around if something is safe for work or
not, but around the art vs porn direction (i.e. full frontal nudity).

Model Mayhem's guidlines are simple:  For females, no open vaginas. 
For males, the penis has to be flacid. No insertions or implied sex
acts.

Art is art and it is frequently best when it is controversial.  Art
will offend some people and for many artists, pushing those limits are
part of the artwork.

The photo in question falls as art under the Model Mayhem guidelines. 
We are an international forum and the United States puritan visions of
nudity being evil.  

This is a perfectly fine photo for exhibition based on this history of
the Photoforum gallery.

Rob 

On 4/11/10 9:50 AM, John Palcewski wrote:

  OK, here's a test of what you perceive to be appropriate
"limits."   It's an image I made of my girlfriend and me twelve years
ago, which I entitled Pygmalion and Galetea.  Gratuitious,
exploitive, full frontal nudity.  You say, "I'm sure everyone agrees
that there must be some limits."  So how about it?  Should I be allowed
to post it on Photofourm, or not? 

  http://pics.livejournal.com/forioscribe/pic/004xgq0b

  On Sun, Apr 11, 2010 at 8:51 AM,
YGelmanPhoto <ygelmanphoto@xxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

    "Censors"?  "Thought police are fired up"?  No need for
getting angry; this is a forum and agreements can be put forward as to
what should be excluded.  Based on the agreements, people can choose to
join or not.   I'm sure everyone agrees that there must be some limits;
if some want no limits then they can choose to not join.
        -yoram

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