Re: truth and public sentiment

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I agree: it is a bogus issue, but as such it will continue to muddy the waters around photography.
It was interesting to hear a development in technology, whereby the grain and noise are removed from negative photographic materials to reveal even finer detail that the (camera or film) was apparently able to record. This had been used to restore the film of Star Wars by Lowry Enterprises  using 600 dual processor G5s!
See http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/click_online/3945149.stm
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the grain obscures minute details. But the grain is random, different in every frame.

So by using information from several frames at once, you can eliminate it, and fill in the missing detail.

It is like pulling back a veil. Now every frame in the movie becomes pin sharp.

The demo - if not a fake! - was amazing.

Howard

Jeff Spirer wrote:
At 12:08 PM 10/24/2004, Bob Talbot wrote:
As to the forensic evidence: seriously, by traditional means the
evidence was always there: it was impossible to hide.  With digital
that is truly no longer the case.  In a composite image, saved as a
jpeg, what finite evidence there might have been is confounded by the
compression.  It is truly impossible to tell (unless someone overdoes
the cloning)

It's worth pointing out that, at least in the US, a photograph isn't proof of anything in a forensic case.  It is the testimony of an individual that validates the photograph as forensic evidence.  There is certainly enough incidents of faked photography in criminal cases that the technology used to produce the photograph is irrelevant.  It's easier to move a weapon into someone's hand at the crime scene than it is to successfully clone it into someone's hand, much easier.

It's really a bogus issue, which is why the primary focus in forensic circle regarding digital technology is is on resolvable detail, not use of post-processing.  I have a real interest in evidence/forensic photography, and have been reading about it for years.  Digital changes nothing.


Jeff Spirer
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