Hey Mike, I think most people who are minimalists would not get involved in a Linux device, they would have gone for the IPhone. Sure there will be some of them who purchase a 400$+ device for minimal functionality, but, and I may be mistaken, the red wine is getting to me here, most of us have purchased this N800 for the power features, I have a Debian based device with BT and WiFi and 2 SD slots!!! YEAH As I said, the wine could be getting to me here in Montreal, but THAT'S why I bought this toy, and that translates to 90 minutes plus if I have to reconfigure it at each flash!! And I repeat, Nokia, I'm not bitching, thatks for the great toy, it's already making my life much better, but please re-arange your priorities to give us this feature before others. Gary Baribault Courriel: gary at baribault.net GPG Key: 0x4346F013 GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 Mike Klein wrote: > These #s mean nothing without taking into account target user as you > mention. > > Do Nothing: This person buys device, installs a few apps and nothing > else. (TARGET AUDIENCE) > Minimal: These users install bunches of apps, certificates, pgp keys > (SECONDARY) > Maxmimum: Power Users/Devt who fully tweak device, custom drivers, conf > edits, perhaps beyond restore-ability > > So for primary audience...what is prob' 30min. reinstall time isn't too bad. > > > mike > > Gary Baribault wrote: >> Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in >> Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes, >> but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a >> fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, if >> i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, no prob, then Nokia is right! >> >> >> Gary Baribault >> Courriel: gary at baribault.net >> GPG Key: 0x4346F013 >> GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 >> >> >> >> drfredc at drfredc.com wrote: >> >>>> I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 >>>> minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 >>>> minutes. >>>> >>> If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll >>> purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate. >>> >>> I'm a 20 minute flash and restore kind of guy, back in August when I >>> got the unit back from warranty service due to it's brick like >>> behavior. Most of that time was spent watching TV while the unit and >>> laptop did their work. >>> >>> However, it's possible that it's easy and short for me because I've >>> kept things relatively simple on my N800 with a couple games, Gizmo >>> Project, Quiver photo viewer and Claws mail being just about the only >>> additions. I've configured about 20 RSS feeds and 4 weather stations. >>> I've tested a fair amount of other stuff from Maemo, but then when I >>> find it of limited value or unfunctional, I remove it to keep the >>> clutter down. It seems to speed boot up keeping things simple. I >>> gather it may also help the restore process... >>> >>> I guess the fine print is I've only recently started messing around >>> getting Claws Mail up to full speed with filters and stuff, so it might >>> be possible that I might have to spend some time fussing with restoring >>> some Claws settings there from a restore, but then again, perhaps not. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maemo-users mailing list >>> maemo-users at maemo.org >>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> maemo-users mailing list >> maemo-users at maemo.org >> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >>