What I'm not understanding here is that the tablet is a debian Linux system, in it's essence... what's the issue with just making the updated packages available, for the power users and tweakers willing to go through the work of a manual update? It doesn't do anything to prevent the folks whose time to restore is under 30 minutes from flashing the thing, and it isn't clear to me what, exactly, prevents this from being possible. Thomas Gary Baribault wrote: > Hey Mike, > > I think most people who are minimalists would not get involved in a > Linux device, they would have gone for the IPhone. Sure there will be > some of them who purchase a 400$+ device for minimal functionality, but, > and I may be mistaken, the red wine is getting to me here, most of us > have purchased this N800 for the power features, I have a Debian based > device with BT and WiFi and 2 SD slots!!! YEAH > > As I said, the wine could be getting to me here in Montreal, but THAT'S > why I bought this toy, and that translates to 90 minutes plus if I have > to reconfigure it at each flash!! And I repeat, Nokia, I'm not > bitching, thatks for the great toy, it's already making my life much > better, but please re-arange your priorities to give us this feature > before others. > > > Gary Baribault > Courriel: gary at baribault.net > GPG Key: 0x4346F013 > GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 > > > > Mike Klein wrote: > >> These #s mean nothing without taking into account target user as you >> mention. >> >> Do Nothing: This person buys device, installs a few apps and nothing >> else. (TARGET AUDIENCE) >> Minimal: These users install bunches of apps, certificates, pgp keys >> (SECONDARY) >> Maxmimum: Power Users/Devt who fully tweak device, custom drivers, conf >> edits, perhaps beyond restore-ability >> >> So for primary audience...what is prob' 30min. reinstall time isn't too bad. >> >> >> mike >> >> Gary Baribault wrote: >> >>> Yep, that's exactly what I mean, some people have put down 430$ (in >>> Canada) for a nice toy, and they can flash and restore in 20 minutes, >>> but most people (I think, and I may be wrong) have put down 430$ for a >>> fully customised device .. I'm not looking to be skewing information, if >>> i'm wrong, then I'm wrong, no prob, then Nokia is right! >>> >>> >>> Gary Baribault >>> Courriel: gary at baribault.net >>> GPG Key: 0x4346F013 >>> GPG Fingerprint: BCE8 2E6B EB39 9B23 6904 1DF4 C4E6 2CF7 4346 F013 >>> >>> >>> >>> drfredc at drfredc.com wrote: >>> >>> >>>>> I'm sure that some of the N800 owners can backup/flash/restore in 20 >>>>> minutes, but I would really be curious how many people take over 90 >>>>> minutes. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> If you limit your curiosity to those over 90 minutes, you'll >>>> purposefully skew the results, which really isn't appropriate. >>>> >>>> I'm a 20 minute flash and restore kind of guy, back in August when I >>>> got the unit back from warranty service due to it's brick like >>>> behavior. Most of that time was spent watching TV while the unit and >>>> laptop did their work. >>>> >>>> However, it's possible that it's easy and short for me because I've >>>> kept things relatively simple on my N800 with a couple games, Gizmo >>>> Project, Quiver photo viewer and Claws mail being just about the only >>>> additions. I've configured about 20 RSS feeds and 4 weather stations. >>>> I've tested a fair amount of other stuff from Maemo, but then when I >>>> find it of limited value or unfunctional, I remove it to keep the >>>> clutter down. It seems to speed boot up keeping things simple. I >>>> gather it may also help the restore process... >>>> >>>> I guess the fine print is I've only recently started messing around >>>> getting Claws Mail up to full speed with filters and stuff, so it might >>>> be possible that I might have to spend some time fussing with restoring >>>> some Claws settings there from a restore, but then again, perhaps not. >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> maemo-users mailing list >>>> maemo-users at maemo.org >>>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> maemo-users mailing list >>> maemo-users at maemo.org >>> https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >>> >>> > _______________________________________________ > maemo-users mailing list > maemo-users at maemo.org > https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users >
