On 23-Apr-20 10:35, George Michaelson wrote: > I thought some things were said about blue sheets which went to "we > will never do that, its only for volume and not PII" > > but memory may be wrong, and .. we're not about "obeying the laws of > physics" here. But.. if we did say that, don't we need to "un-say" it? I hope we never said it. The blue sheets are proof of presence for the purposes of our IPR disclosure rules. A list of attendees is required by BCP25. As the Note Well says, * As a participant in or attendee to any IETF activity you acknowledge that written, audio, video, and photographic records of meetings may be made public. * Personal information that you provide to IETF will be handled in accordance with the IETF Privacy Statement. Brian > > Blue Sheets are not purely informational by count now: You may be > identified by adding your data to a blue sheet and it may be > reconciled against other records in ways which are PII, and hence > invoke GDPR and CCPA > > -G > > On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 8:30 AM Jay Daley <jay@xxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> On 23/04/2020, at 9:09 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> This suggests something else that may be relevant. If there is >> _any_ chance that we might want to use session attendance >> information for IETF 107 for anything at all, including but >> definitely not limited to Nomcom eligibility in the future (not >> this year's NomCom), it would probably be wise to either merge >> to information from the Etherpad with Jabber logins and/or to >> explicit ask people who were unable (or sufficiently >> inconvenienced by technology) to record their presence on the >> Etherpad to identify themselves to the Secretariat in some >> appropriate way (I hope not on this mailing list). >> >> Jay, is that feasible? >> >> >> For IETF 107 the secretariat reconciled the list of Webex participants with the bluesheets to create a single list on a per session basis. Inferring a participant’s name from a jabber ID is too hard. >> >> Jay >> >> >> thanks, >> john >> >> >> >> -- >> Jay Daley >> IETF Executive Director >> jay@xxxxxxxx >> > >
