> On 21/04/2020, at 9:45 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Dear Mr Daley, > At 05:57 PM 19-04-2020, Jay Daley wrote: >> Another way of looking at this is that the IESG have a set of responsibilities (delegated authorities if you prefer) as does the IETF Executive Director and as does the IRTF Chair, and if those get together to coordinate on how they do their work and do not exceed any of their responsibilities then why does that need a label or formal recognition? Or is it your view that a) the responsibilities have been exceeded; or b) this type coordination across roles needs community consensus approval before it is allowed to happen? Your note implies b) rather than a) which seems surprising so I suspect I'm just missing a nuance. > > There is a policy (BCP) about the meeting stuff. It sets guidance for the IASA. Are you are referring to that as the delegated authority? There isn't anything in there about delegated authority for the IESG. (To be clear, I don’t speak for the IESG, this is just a pointer to the relevant source of delegated authority) RFC 3710, Section 1.1 sets out role of the IESG as follows: The Internet Engineering Steering Group (IESG) is the group responsible for the direct operation of the IETF and for ensuring the quality of work produced by the IETF. The IESG charters and terminates working groups, selects their chairs, monitors their progress and coordinates efforts between them. The IESG performs technical review and approval of working group documents and candidates for the IETF standards track, and reviews other candidates for publication in the RFC series. It also administers IETF logistics, including operation of the Internet-Draft document series and the IETF meeting event. The phrase "IETF meeting event" in the last sentence is the most relevant, but the first sentence "direct operation of the IETF" can also be read into this context. Jay > The IETF LLC gets to decide whether the IESG should be part of some management team. A person operating at Management level is deemed to have understood the limits of his/her "authority". > > Regards, > S. Moonesamy -- Jay Daley IETF Executive Director jay@xxxxxxxx
