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On 8/3/19 3:00 PM, Melinda Shore wrote:
On Sat, Aug 3, 2019, 14:49 John C Klensin < john-ietf@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
Perhaps
it is time to change those rules but, if so, let's do it
explicitly rather than silently drifting from "determined
and
confirmed in the mailing list" toward "determined in a
meeting"
followed by pro forma mailing list confirmation.
Hear, hear. I feel very strongly about this,
and its clear ties to the discussion of meeting modalities.
It seems that we've got a number of threads converging on the
possible need for a major reexamination of how the IETF
accomplishes our work. We tend to do poorly at this kind of
navel gazing but it may be time.
Perhaps related to this, I'm really bothered by what seems like
an increasingly widespread belief that WGs should be able to do
whatever they want, use any tools they want, etc., no matter how
this affects process or openness. So I think having a
community-wide re-examination of how we do our work might be
useful at either tweaking existing practice or re-affirming it, as
appropriate.
(of course, it could also be an invitation to second-system
effect, but we can't let that scare us.)
I also think we could stand to look at other aspects of how we do
our work, such as how we use email, how we conduct face-to-face
meetings, etc.
Keith
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