Re: IETF attendance costs

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On 14-May-19 00:00, Stewart Bryant wrote:
> 
> 
> On 13/05/2019 03:49, Melinda Shore wrote:
>> On 5/12/19 6:39 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> Nor in terms of motivations either. However, it seems relevant to
>>> the question of whether the IETF should continue to do standards
>>> track work *ahead* of the market, of which homenet is a current
>>> example and IPv6 is a 25-year-old example. In the realm of counter-
>>> factuals, imagine for a moment what might have happened if in 1994,
>>> the IETF had said "Too soon, we'll just leave IPng aside for now;
>>> those interested can take it to the IRTF."
> 
> Unfortunately there is no such thing as "the market". Different 
> stakeholders have different needs in terms of whether they need an RFC 
> before they deploy.

Of course. But what goes into the mass market host operating systems
really matters. Again taking my 25 years old example, it matters that
Windows, MacOS, iOS and Android support dual stack IPv6. That didn't
happen because consumers asked for it.

   Brian




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