On 5/10/19 6:10 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote: >> As one example, the gaia wg had some really interesting speakers from >> poorer parts of the world that got there somehow, when it was first >> formed. How did that happen? Is it still happening? > I don't know, but I suspect ISOC had a hand in it. Special facilities > for participants from developing countries are an excellent thing, > although the ISOC Fellowships seem to be on hold at the moment. gaia is not an IETF working group - it is an IRSG research group, and that is not a trivial distinction in terms of working methods or deliverables. On balance I think the increase in RG sessions during IETF meetings is a very good thing but it has led to an increase in this sort of confusion. At any rate, as someone who's both self-funded and participated remotely quite a bit, I don't think that the goal here is to get more people to meetings, but rather to make sure that people who are actually contributing have the ability to fully participate, whatever form that takes (ignoring, for the moment, meeting revenues). Meetings are not conferences, they're working meetings. I also don't know how to communicate more clearly than we have been that the IETF is not a membership organization and there is no voting - that's a related misunderstanding that just doesn't seem to go away. Melinda -- Melinda Shore melinda.shore@xxxxxxxxx Software longa, hardware brevis
