Hi Dave, Thanks for bring this work to the IETF. Yes, I would also like to encourage you to discuss your proposal in TSVWG using the mailing list and eventually present this work at the next TSVWG meeting. However, there is not required to participate in-person. We frequently have remote presentations and from my experience that works well. I’m sure the TSVWG chairs can further advise you on this. Cheers Magnus Westerlund On 2019-04-28 15:54, Dave Taht wrote: > Several members of the open source "bufferbloat.net" group do > regularly participate in ietf mailing lists and remote meetings, but > it is rare that any of us > can actually afford to attend IETF. In fact, we've had no travel > budget for 3 years running. I'd mostly reduced my involvement to BABEL > after the AQM wg closed, and that remotely only. > > This past IETF, we had to hold a bake sale on the bloat mailing list > as well as melt all my credit cards in order to get our new SCE "Some > Congestion Experienced" AQM concept in front of the tsvwg and iccrg > working groups in contrast to the cablelabs dualpi proposal. > > (if anyone cares, the TSVWG talk and slides are here: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQmWyr0JDJM&t=1h3m50s ) - > > The controversy in the open source community, covered here: > https://lwn.net/Articles/783673/ > > We've been *very strongly encouraged* to present again at the upcoming > ietf in montreal, but I'm now in no position to sponsor the 2-3 core > people again that need to present the follow-on results in the 5 or so > related wgs. Is there an org, a fund, a means, a way, to get a bunch > of rather poor, but innovative, open source devs and theorist, out > there, that we can apply to? raise the ~9k needed? isoc? Something? > > (and if it were possible i'd rather like to have what I had had to > spend back, so I can pour it into recreating a network testbed for > this work. I'm not planning to attend, myself. The one trip alone > wiped out ecn-sane's budget for the year) > -- Magnus Westerlund ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Network Architecture & Protocols, Ericsson Research ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 Torshamnsgatan 23 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 Stockholm, Sweden | mailto: magnus.westerlund@xxxxxxxxxxxx ----------------------------------------------------------------------
